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RIP Fourth amendment... Just in case you've already forgotten the protection you've been denied...

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

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Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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Do you think the Fourth Amendment should have any limitations, like the 1st and 2nd amendment do?

Racer X @ over 4 years ago

Norcross, GA 30071, USA

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The first and second only have limitations on them that the same government that ignores the fourth has placed on them.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Neither should have limitations.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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The "fire in a crowded movie theatre" line is the line used by carpetbaggers and vagabonds as the trojan horse to take them away from us.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Everyone in this country should have the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre. They will be held accountable for their actions as with any other method of speech.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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It's used to condition us to beleiving we shouldn't have all the rights we were given by God. That there are limits for "safety". Which is the biggest load of #### ever.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Now, pornography, that needs to be banned.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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I don't think there should be any limitations on any of them truthfully. I believe they should be taken at face value. I believe lawyers have ruined this country. (No offense Doc!)

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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@Repeal - no limitations whatsoever?

Racer X @ over 4 years ago

Acworth, GA 30102, USA

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P.S. - the new voter map update is available. It claims you can post pictures now.

Racer X @ over 4 years ago

Emerson, GA, USA

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None. But then, I have anarchist tendencies. I don't expect many people to agree with me...

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

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Do you know why anarchism doesn't work? Because American Idol is still on TV.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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States rights have been replaced by nation rights. Our constitution and a strong middle class is what keeps us from global governance. If the constitution doesn't mean anything we're all on the fast train to hell on earth.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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The wealth gap in this country is a bigger problem than we're led to believe. Obama is merely a puppet. The puppet masters know they are living in a house of cards and that they are outnumbered.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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We all live in glass houses. Who wants to throw stones at this corrupt government now?

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kaRvzQ887HM&feature=related

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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@tasty - you had to know my question was coming. How do you suggest we solve the wealth gap problem?

Racer X @ over 4 years ago

Bethlehem, GA 30620, USA

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Start by requiring a living minimum wage for adults instead of small businesses and workers carrying the tax burden for foodstamps and other subsidies for wal-mart's and the like's full-time employees. I'm not a financial expert, but nobody has been

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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held accountable for the wall st heist of 08'. How many people were thrown out of the middle class due to the engineered housing bubble crash and the blatent corruption of the de-regulated derivatives market? Workers with no interest in high-risk

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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nope, no limitations on constitutional rights. I don't worry about a mentally unhinged ex felon obtaining a firearm....I can even the odds and I will come out the winner.

A Benevolent Greedy Bastard @ over 4 years ago

New Castle, IN 47362, USA

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investments were ripped the fu©k off out of their entire way of life and forced to pay for these banker a$$hole's gambling debts. Gallows on wall st. there's one way to bridge the wealth gap. the mindset of financially successful people towards

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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the less greedy among us (the majority) could stand to be humbly taken down a peg or two as well. I've worked for more millionaires than i've cared to. There's an out of touchness that i've seen in most of them.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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Minimum wage is economic nonsense. No different than price fixing any other commodity. It doesn't work and doesn't have the effect is supporters desire.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Labor is a cost, just like any other input into creating a good or service. Forcing it's price higher means demand for it drops. That means killing jobs for low skill workers, and killing opportunity for them to gain experience and improve skills.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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The free market regulates wages just fine of the govt would stop screwing with things.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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So does shipping their skilled jobs overseas, giving them service sector jobs at walmart selling #### made by foreign laborers whose companies don't pay appropriate import tarriffs. Then the rest of the workers lucky enough to have a decent job

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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end up buying foodstamps for the people who lost their jobs. Wall st. doesn't give a ####. slave wages and lost usa jobs = shareholder profit.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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And the answer to that is raising minimum wage? We have the highest labor costs, the highest cost of compliance, and the highest taxes. It's an economic decision.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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We have high taxes and regulations because wall st. decided that the american manufacturing base which made us awsome, needed to be dismantled and outsourced to maximize profits. It'll bit em in the ass on way or the other.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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Protective tariffs are a fallacy, based on a flawed understanding of economics. Or based on the fact that you will be a benefactor (crony capitalism)

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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We have high taxes and regulation because of collusion between govt AND business.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Industrial hemp manufacturing. Pro-usa agribusiness (we already consume more ih than any other country) and manufacturing. If you can't see it, get outta the way grandpa and let the next gen handle thos fu©king mess.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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Protective tariffs prop up inefficient businesses and tie up resources that could otherwise be put to better use. They force consumers to pay higher prices, thereby lowering the standard of living for everyone. It's wealth redistribution via crony

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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capitalism

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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You lost me with the hemp comment. What do you mean?

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Riff?

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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I'm talking about producing homegrown resources (not the $ kind of resource) and manufacturing here. And how has sending money and manufacturing jobs oversees improved the overall health of the economy?

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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We've witnessed wealth distribution because of these policies you seem to want to protect. But we can't come close to discussing a solution to this mess without first addressing our nation's relationship with the federal reserve. imo

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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These fu©king bankers took taxpayer money and yet borrow money from us (ie. savings accounts) and pay interest less than inflation. The game is rigged.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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I agree the game is rigged with the fed and banks and govt etc. I think you know that. The way the fed inflates is one of the biggest scams which redistributes from poor to rich. It is crony capitalism at its finest. Protective tariffs are part of

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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that game. Minimum wage however is different.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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No minimum or lower minimum wage does not result in wealth redistribution. Assume a company grossly under pays workers. Entrepreneurs are attracted naturally to high profit areas and will move into that industry. They will pay more to attract

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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workers skilled in that industry from the greedy employer and charge less to undercut the price. They are willing to take a smaller piece of the pie in order to beat the greedy competitor and steal his business. The greedy guy is then forced to

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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raise wages and lower prices to compete or fail. The free market regulates in this way such that wages will always approach the productivity of the worker. No govt intervention required. To pay people more than they produce is economic suicide. It

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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won't happen. That means killing jobs for low skilled workers. That means someone sitting give unemployed instead of gaining skills and experience and building reputation that will help advance them. The answer to a living wage is to aquire a more

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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productive skill.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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This is fundamental Austrian economics, although I'm not sure I'm so good at explaining it.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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The solution to the wealth gap is kill crony capitalism. Any gap that exists outside of that is natural and proper and doesn't need fixing.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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It is not in the govt's interest or in the interest of their "business buddies" to fix it.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Forget the minimum living wage and import tarriffs on foreign goods. I'm not an economist. Dropping out of the corporate profit community and going local seems to be the only way to weather the storm about to hit us. But if you look realistically

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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at the cost of living and wages vs. the increase in profits for the 1% (another evil term like minimum wage, tarrifs, unions, workman's comp, osha, pension) there is an unsettling difference. from the perspective of the working man, its like being

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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told "you're poor because you aren't pulling yourself up, now all you ####er's go play king of the hill because only 1% of you will make it to not be poor." The wealthy in this country need to realize the reality of this situation

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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is not a friedman vacuum. Its funny how you don't hear people talking about their portfolios they way they did about 10 years ago. 2 wars and banker bailouts for de-regulated derivatives market, but noo "#### you peasant try harder!"

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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This is primarily caused by the inflationary monetary policy of the fed imo. This a particularly vicious form of wealth redistribution. The inflation hits different areas of the economy at varying rates. An Austrian economist like Ron Paul would tell

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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you that the earliest recipients of this money benefit the most, while the latest recipients pay the price. The first recipients benefit from the cash before any price inflation hits. The last are forced to endure higher prices before their wages

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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see any increase due to the inflation. Guess who gets it first... Big banks.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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The more inflation, the bigger the artificially created gap. It is important to differentiate an artificially created gap, from a natural gap. There will always be a gap and that is fine as there as its not there due govt policy /corruption.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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*(as long as it's not there due to)

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Wow just realized this is pretty far off the @op topic. Sorry repeal.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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We haven't had a "natural" gap for a long time. I should start a soup kitchen building business. Maybe its cuz i'm a forester's son, but why the fu©k is sustainability not an issue? at some point greed and self-interest have to give way to humanity.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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Its exactly on topic. When the bottom drops out and we have a peasants revolt, they're gonna want to know their enemy. I fear for us as a nation if we don't handle this as citizens with a quickness.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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Calling for minimum wage increases and tariffs makes it worse. The fed and their QE is the problem.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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The majority doesn't have the stomach for it. It will take economic collapse first.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Imposing tarriffs on goods sold at wal-mart so that american workers aren't competing with slave/sweat labor, isn't the same as propping up ineffecient businesses.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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Most of that #### is made with cancer-causing petro plastics that could be made here with hemp and other bio resources. But when dick cheney runs the show for big oil, goddamnit the world had better buy it.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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... "for all the people that live in the house that oil built!" - arrogant fu©ks. Monsanto? Fu©king puke. Cancer rates and autism through the ####ing roof and only rich people can afford to get sick. #### me, #### us all.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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Sure it is. It allows less efficient domestic companies to compete. It takes dollars out of the pockets of consumers so they have less to spend on other goods and services, some that are produced here. You have to spend 60 on a pair jeans instead of

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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30 that's 30 bucks you can't spend somewhere else. You haven't considered the reaction of other countries either. When we slap tariffs on foreign products, then they will respond with retaliatory tariffs. That makes OUR exports more expensive in

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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other countries and hurts OUR domestic producers.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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If an American manufacturer can't compete and goes out of business, that frees up resources for other industries. It's not like those jobs go over seas and people never work again. Economies are constantly evolving.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

Wtf is wrong with vm? I have to try to post like 4 times. Then delete duplicates. Time to sleep anyway. Later riff.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Well then, We should just lower our own standards here to compete then. Pay eight year olds $2 a day to make soccerballs and tennis shoes. But don't act like everyone's playing on a level playing field. We used to be a country that took pride in

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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the made in usa label. its a shame that that has become a luxury item. Buy #### you don't need with money you don't have to impress people you don't even like.

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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Later ah

tasty riff @ over 4 years ago

Port Hueneme, CA

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The first thing to do is lower or eliminate taxes and over burdening regulations. Businesses don't pay taxes, consumers do. It's reflected in prices. Raise taxes too much and a company can no longer compete.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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It's not about massive profits all the time. It is about staying competitive. You don't just move over seas, charge the same, and continue to rake in the gold. Remember that other guy is willing to take a smaller piece of your pie, so that it can

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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be theirs instead of yours.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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Higher wages are still justified with higher productivity. If there are areas we can't compete, then our resources are better redirected elsewhere. They won't sit idle.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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Bump... For Bhaven, who I suspect has never read the Fourth...

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

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obama has no excuse

[412035] @ over 4 years ago

Valley, WV, USA

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Still hasn't read it

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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@tasty - raising minimum wage will do nothing to shrink the wealth gap that exists in the US.

Racer X @ over 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Raising minimum wage will increase the cost of goods... and least to increased unemployment in unskilled labor.

Racer X @ over 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/labor/negative-effects-minimum-wage-laws

Racer X @ over 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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The limitations on the amendments are limitations on the gummint. Not the people.

RdNkDr @ over 4 years ago

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Remember it was argued by proponents of the Constitution that the BOR was both unnecessary and dangerous. The BOR only explicitly stated was was already implicit according to the federalists.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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The danger was that the BOR would be interpreted as an absolute definitive list.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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We do see this now when gun grabbers try to interpret the second to place limits on the people.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

To expand what rdnkdr said, from the beginning they were 100% limits on ONLY the federal government.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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BOR was never intended to apply to the states. SCOTUS created this out of thin air because it is their job to justify federal power grabs.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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One thing I'll agree with tasty on is legalize the hemp. No, you won't have any magic panacea but there's absolutely no reason for it to be off - limits. Any size industry is better than nothing

The Drew @ over 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Even if it's just some super nichey thing for locavore, yupster, hipster types.... Those are still product, people will still buy them, still jobs.

The Drew @ over 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Mystery thumber, why don't you grow a pair and speak up.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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I've said my piece.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Your thumbs don't even count! You aren't real. If I recall you and I had the wage debate and you actually broke character.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

Character? You are a mental patient.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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If I remember correctly I was a consistent Conservative in your "wage" debate, you wrote me off and ignored me.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

You think I'm so one dimensional, so Conservative that you can paint me in whatever little corner you want to demonize me. You are just doing what liberaltarianf@gs do all the time.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

You claim that you are true "conservatives", But that is just a word game, and you will lose it, because you need us more than we need you.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

FYI I WILL THUMB DOWN WHOEVER I WANT FOR WHATEVER REASON I WANT AND YOU CAN'T TELL ME I CAN'T OBAMA BIN STALIN HITLER MAO POT.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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If you ask me, minding your own business has to be the most conservative thing you can do and that's libertarian philosophy in a nutshell. Republicans have twisted "conservative" to mean uber religious, fascist nutbag, but that's not what the word

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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actually means.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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Libertarians are the only true conservatives left.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

See! That sh_t right there! It's just a word game. Repeat the lie over and over until it sounds reasonable.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

You can play pretend about what it means to be Conservative all you want but you aint it, you are progressives.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Yeah cuz minding your own business is such a progressive idea...

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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1. Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Even if you insist that it is Conservative that is only one facet. You support legalizing queer marriage You think abortion should be legal You think gays should be able to teach in our schools

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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A lot of "libertarians" support amnesty and lax immigration laws. (I just don't know about your position on it personally. All of these things are progressive "ideals".

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Conservatism is at it's very core meaning "To keep things the way they are" or were in the case of things we have lost in policy disputes like abortion etc etc.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Like conservation as it pertains to resources or environmental areas, to repel change and undo the damage done by foreign invaders (liberals).

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Just because you claim we have strayed in one aspect does not even make you anywhere closer to the meaning of the word in any waty shape or form. It's just revisionism.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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No we just believe that everyone should be able to do whatever they want as long as they aren't violating anyone else's rights. You don't have the right to not be offended by other people's lifestyles therefore all repub arguments fail. Don't wanna

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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see ####s? Stay home and watch disney movies.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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Are you f_cking kidding me? Some of the most damaging liberal brainwashing is in disney movies! Now you are being absurd.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Besides, tollerance of homosexuality and abortion go to the very core of your stance. What happened to the rights of the baby you are murdering?

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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When you tolerate the destruction of society everyone suffers.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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lol whatever. Read a book then.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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So you want to normalize sodomy because "what 2 people do is none of my business". Who else does that impact? Because it is not just those 2 people. What about children involved?

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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Eli Stutzman comes to mind.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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I read books all the time. You would do well to pick up a bible.

WV Conservative @ over 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

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blah blah blah ;-)

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ over 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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Libertarians are not all for abortion. It's very split actually, for the exact reason you said... The rights of the child. As is always the case it boils down to when does life begin.

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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I am against it and find it morally reprehensible -- even though God as portrayed in the Bible is a construct of man. Imagine that!

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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Blasphemy!

Arlington Heights @ over 4 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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Kill all the "humanoids" in jail, deport anyone workout a job or who is a parasite, put a $100 bounty on illegal aliens. You drag them in collect. $100 and get your lazy ass off welfare

RdNkDr @ over 4 years ago

Cadiz, KY 42211, USA

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The 4th amendment has been voided by Obama and his flying monkeys

RdNkDr @ about 4 years ago

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